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== Chapter 30B == | |||
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==== 3个变量 - Risk Reward and Probability ==== | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-2.png|left|thumb|600x600px|Three Important Variables: Not Just Risk and Reward]] | |||
|3个重要变量: 不仅仅是Risk and Reward | |||
Traders在准备入场任何一个交易时,需要考虑3个变量: | |||
* Probability | |||
* Reward | |||
* Risk | |||
早的入场点意味着更小的risk,更大的reward, 但也意味着更低的概率。 | |||
晚的入场点意味着更高的概率,但更差的盈亏比 | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-7.png|left|thumb|600x600px|Beginners: Afraid of Risk - did not think in terms of probability]] | |||
|Beginners: Afraid of Risk | |||
When trader starts out, worked hard to save enough money to try trading | |||
Account is small so Afraid of losing opportunity to see if can win big | |||
Generally take lowest risk trades | |||
Lose money because don’t understand | |||
importance of probability and that low risk trades lose 60% or more of the time | |||
Lose money because of poor management | |||
Can make money with either high probability and weak RR | |||
or low probability and strong RR if manage the trades properly | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-8.png|left|thumb|600x600px|Experienced Traders: Only Think about Math]] | |||
|Experienced Traders: Only Think about Math | |||
They choose high probability or strong RR, depending on which gives them a better edge | |||
For example, if they have to leave soon, they might choose higher probability | |||
because these trades usually have a faster profit, even though ¡s it usually smaller (scalp) | |||
Skilled traders don’t worry too much about picking exact top or bottom | |||
Many wait for BO or pullback since probability 60% or more | |||
Comfortable with stop far away | |||
Bigger risk is cost of getting high probability | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-9.png|left|thumb|600x600px|Improve the Math: 2 Ways]] | |||
|Improve the Math: 2 Ways | |||
One way to improve RR is by swing trading instead of scalping | |||
Swing trader takes profit here | |||
Same initial risk as scalper | |||
Average profit is bigger | |||
More than offsets slightly lower probability of profit before stop is hit | |||
2nd way to improve Trader’s Equation is by scaling in | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-10.png|left|thumb|600x600px|Scaling In: Increase Probability, but Pay for It with RR]] | |||
|Scaling In: Increase Probability, but Pay for It with RR | |||
Sell below pullback bar | |||
Sell more (scale in) below Low 2 sell signal bar | |||
Scaling into trade increases probability | |||
Pay for it with increased risk and reduced reward | |||
Take profits at 1st entry | |||
Breakeven on Pt short | |||
Profit on 2nd short | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-11.png|left|thumb|600x600px|Bull Breakout: Increases Probability]] | |||
|Bull Breakout: Increases Probability | |||
Strong BO and follow-through | |||
High probability of Measured Move up, but stop is far below so big risk | |||
PB after strong BO so bull flag | |||
Slightly lower probability | |||
since TTR (and Triangle) | |||
Small risk, but low probability | |||
DB HL MTR, bottom of TR, | |||
but most TR BO fail | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-13.png|left|thumb|600x600px|High Probability: Means Scalping (Weak RR)]] | |||
|High Probability: Means Scalping (Weak RR) | |||
If someone wins 90% of time, he is scalping | |||
Cannot get good variable without giving on others | |||
If I get high probability, you get good RR (usually small risk) | |||
This means that you lose a little and I make a little (scalp) | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-14.png|left|thumb|600x600px|RR Usually Exact: Probability Never Certain]] | |||
|RR Usually Exact: Probability Never Certain | |||
You know risk and reward | |||
You set them when you place your bracket order | |||
Know how many ticks/pips they are from your entry price | |||
* Risk = number of ticks/pips to protective stop | |||
* Reward = number of ticks/pips to profit taking limit order | |||
* '''Probability = most important, but never clear and often ignored''' | |||
Sell close of 2nd strong bear trend bar | |||
Stop is above top of bear leg of top of 2 bar BO | |||
Reasonable initial profit target (reward) | |||
Most traders want profit at least equal to initial risk | |||
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![[File:30-RRP-15.png|left|thumb|600x600px|Deep Pullback in Bull: Risk, Reward, and Probability]] | |||
|Deep Pullback in Bull: Risk, Reward, and Probability | |||
Always look to the left of any BO | |||
As long as above prior low, still in bull channel, | |||
even if Always In Short | |||
Bear BO and follow-through | |||
Always In Short | |||
Double Bottom | |||
Higher Low | |||
Bulls buy reversal up | |||
Most bears exit | |||
Small BO below bottom of bull BO bar (hard to see) | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-18.png|left|thumb|600x600px|How Many Bull Dollars in Bottom 3rd?]] | |||
|How Many Bull Dollars in Bottom 3rd? Need Reversal Up | |||
Strength of reversal up tells traders bulls stronger than bears Back to Always In Long | |||
In bottom 3rd, always an unknowable number of dollars ready to buy to create HL and Broad Bull Channel | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-19.png|left|thumb|600x600px|Deep Pullback in Bear: Risk, Reward, and Probability]] | |||
|Deep Pullback in Bear: Risk, Reward, and Probability | |||
Always look to the left of any BO | |||
As long as below prior high, still in bear channel, even if Always In Long | |||
Double Top, LH Possible Broad Bear Channel | |||
Bulls exit 2nd Leg Trap and bears sell | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-20.png|left|thumb|600x600px|PB in Bear Less Than 50%: Probability Favors Bears]] | |||
|PB in Bear Less Than 50%: Probability Favors Bears | |||
As long as PB stays below 50%, then probability at least 50% for bears | |||
But, below 50% PB, risk greater than reward | |||
Stop is farther than profit target | |||
Most important target for bulls Is above entire bear swing, not just last leg down | |||
If rally goes above highest stop, then no longer bear channel | |||
Then, either bull or TR | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-21.png|left|thumb|600x600px|PB ¡n Bear Less Than 50%: Probability Favors Bears]] | |||
|PB in Bear Less Than 50%: Probability Favors Bears | |||
In top 3rd, probability is 60% for bulls to get new high | |||
and 40% for bears to get new low | |||
Reward for bears is 2x risk (good RR) | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-22.png|left|thumb|600x600px|In Top 3rd: RR Favors Bears]] | |||
|In Top 3rd: RR Clearly Favors Bears | |||
This means reward at least 2x risk | |||
Also means probability fell to 40% | |||
In bottom half, probability favors bears | |||
This means at least 60% chance of new low | |||
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![[File:30B-RRP-23.png|left|thumb|600x600px|How Many Bear Dollars in Top 3rd? Need Reversal Down]] | |||
|How Many Bear Dollars in Top 3rd? Need Reversal Down | |||
Even though probability favors bulls, | |||
RR is at least 2:1 for the bears | |||
Always bears willing to sell | |||
In top 3rd, always an unknowable number of dollars ready to sell to create LH and Broad Bear Channel | |||
Strength of reversal down tells traders bears stronger than bulls | |||
Back to Always In Short | |||
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2023年8月25日 (五) 18:03的最新版本
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3个重要变量: 不仅仅是Risk and Reward
Traders在准备入场任何一个交易时,需要考虑3个变量:
早的入场点意味着更小的risk,更大的reward, 但也意味着更低的概率。 晚的入场点意味着更高的概率,但更差的盈亏比 | |
Beginners: Afraid of Risk
Account is small so Afraid of losing opportunity to see if can win big
Lose money because don’t understand importance of probability and that low risk trades lose 60% or more of the time Lose money because of poor management
or low probability and strong RR if manage the trades properly | |
Experienced Traders: Only Think about Math
For example, if they have to leave soon, they might choose higher probability because these trades usually have a faster profit, even though ¡s it usually smaller (scalp)
Many wait for BO or pullback since probability 60% or more
Bigger risk is cost of getting high probability | |
Improve the Math: 2 Ways
One way to improve RR is by swing trading instead of scalping
Same initial risk as scalper Average profit is bigger More than offsets slightly lower probability of profit before stop is hit
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Scaling In: Increase Probability, but Pay for It with RR
Sell more (scale in) below Low 2 sell signal bar
Pay for it with increased risk and reduced reward
Breakeven on Pt short Profit on 2nd short | |
Bull Breakout: Increases Probability
High probability of Measured Move up, but stop is far below so big risk
Slightly lower probability since TTR (and Triangle)
DB HL MTR, bottom of TR, but most TR BO fail | |
High Probability: Means Scalping (Weak RR)
If someone wins 90% of time, he is scalping Cannot get good variable without giving on others If I get high probability, you get good RR (usually small risk) This means that you lose a little and I make a little (scalp) | |
RR Usually Exact: Probability Never Certain
You set them when you place your bracket order Know how many ticks/pips they are from your entry price
Stop is above top of bear leg of top of 2 bar BO
Most traders want profit at least equal to initial risk | |
Deep Pullback in Bull: Risk, Reward, and Probability
As long as above prior low, still in bull channel, even if Always In Short
Always In Short
Higher Low Bulls buy reversal up Most bears exit
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How Many Bull Dollars in Bottom 3rd? Need Reversal Up
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Deep Pullback in Bear: Risk, Reward, and Probability
As long as below prior high, still in bear channel, even if Always In Long
Bulls exit 2nd Leg Trap and bears sell
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PB in Bear Less Than 50%: Probability Favors Bears
Stop is farther than profit target
If rally goes above highest stop, then no longer bear channel Then, either bull or TR | |
PB in Bear Less Than 50%: Probability Favors Bears
and 40% for bears to get new low
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In Top 3rd: RR Clearly Favors Bears
This means reward at least 2x risk Also means probability fell to 40% In bottom half, probability favors bears This means at least 60% chance of new low | |
How Many Bear Dollars in Top 3rd? Need Reversal Down
Even though probability favors bulls, RR is at least 2:1 for the bears Always bears willing to sell
Back to Always In Short |